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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ZH-TW link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>OK. Thanks for the explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>KY<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>闍怵羅</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> [mailto:s2w81234@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 23, 2019 8:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> kysu <kysu@iis.sinica.edu.tw><br><b>Cc:</b> Most-ai-contest@iis.sinica.edu.tw<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Most-ai-contest] </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>關於</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>multi-span extractions </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>說明</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>從問題提取出<span lang=EN-US>K</span>個並不是<span lang=EN-US>strange</span>做法<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Multi-span</span>的問題<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>可分為兩類<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>一、不指定數量（那些？那個？什麼？）<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>二、指定數量（那兩個？那四個？）<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>目前主要都是針對<span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>指定數量的問題來進行處理<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>所以才會有從問題提取幾個<span lang=EN-US>K</span>的做法<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>這邊的提取幾個答案 是真的要提取不同的答案<span lang=EN-US>K<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>不是預測的<span lang=EN-US>top-k </span>因為這還設計<span lang=EN-US>within</span>跟<span lang=EN-US>overrap</span>的問題<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>伸直還要去處理<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>一個<span lang=EN-US>answer span</span>也可能包含多個<span lang=EN-US>answer</span>的問題<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>不指定數量的問題 要依賴後續<span lang=EN-US>NN-BASED</span>或是<span lang=EN-US>rule</span>來去選出要幾個<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>kysu <<a href="mailto:kysu@iis.sinica.edu.tw" target="_blank">kysu@iis.sinica.edu.tw</a>> </span>於<span lang=EN-US> 2019</span>年<span lang=EN-US>12</span>月<span lang=EN-US>23</span>日 週一<span lang=EN-US> 20:26 </span>寫道：<span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The way to decide K based on the question seems strange. I think it should be judged based on the related content.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>KY</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:most-ai-contest-bounces@iis.sinica.edu.tw" target="_blank">most-ai-contest-bounces@iis.sinica.edu.tw</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:most-ai-contest-bounces@iis.sinica.edu.tw" target="_blank">most-ai-contest-bounces@iis.sinica.edu.tw</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>闍怵羅</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 23, 2019 7:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Most-ai-contest@iis.sinica.edu.tw" target="_blank">Most-ai-contest@iis.sinica.edu.tw</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Most-ai-contest] </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>關於</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>multi-span extractions </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>說明</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>大家好，今日下午都在飛機上，無法即時回答問題非常抱歉</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Multi-span</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>的列舉題</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>現階段就是採取非常手段的做法</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>就是</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>single-span</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>採取</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>topk</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>K</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>從問題來提取</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>所以在問題表示</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>那些？</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>什麼？的情況下</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>我也沒辦法有效評估</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>到底要取幾個</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>現在效能低落的原因還包含</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>他答案是不統一性的</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>像是</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>預測答案民主與經濟</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>答案可能會寫</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>「民主」與「經濟」</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>或是答案</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>預測的順序相反</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>我預測</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>A</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>、</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>B</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>與</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>C</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>答案是</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>B</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>、</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>C</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>與</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>A</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>甚至有一題</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>預測跟文本寫銅鋁</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>答案是銅與鋁</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>還有我自己在跑全部</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>FGC data</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>的時候</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>並沒有發生過</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>error exception </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>等情況</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>再來</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> multi-span</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>只有所謂的</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>accuracy </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>沒有所謂的</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>F1</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>如果從</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>F1</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>的觀點來說</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>多數</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>要列舉並有給定數量的題目</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>也有抓到期中是答案的</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>2-3</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>個</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>但是在真正整個列舉的時候</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>少一個即為錯</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>